Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Daredevil 84 Cover faked pencil re-creation

UPDATE September 2019:

Over six years ago I wrote this blog post featuring a Gil Kane pencilled cover to Daredevil 84. Several commenters told me this was a fake (see the bottom of this post) and I resisted that idea for years.

I was bamboozled into thinking this was a genuine Kane piece. The actual Daredevil 84 color cover was done by Gil Kane. But the pencilled image below is a copy, traced over the original inked cover. I finally believe this after a long discussion on the Gil Kane: Raising Kane group on Facebook.

Al Bigley owns the original art to Daredevil 84.


A few things led me to agree with the opinion this is a fake:


  • Few original art covers from this time period exist with the markup over the pencils. Usually the pencils were done and inks applied over the original art board. Word Balloons and logos pasted on top of the artwork.
  • The pencils on the left image indeed look like tracing over the inked cover. When Kane did pencils they were not done in outline format. It was either done in layout format (with geometric shapes for the figures) or with shaded pencils.
  • There are various differences between the left and right images. On Al Bigley's cover you notice a TM next to Marvel Comics Group on top; the word Daredevil written in pencil on top of the masthead. These are not on the pencilled cover.


Original blog post from 2012:

In 1971, Gil Kane drew a number of Daredevil covers.  I came across Daredevil #84 in various stages of production.



Pencilled version (now verified as a FAKE). 


Inked Version.  Notice that Daredevil's face has been touched up a bit.


Actual cover with colors.  Wouldn't it be great to see an Artist's Edition with Gil Kane's artwork?  Nuff Said!

11 comments:

  1. Are you the person who thought that pencil image above was done by Gil Kane? If so, you really need to bone up on Gil's line work because that's NOT Gil. It's not even a good imitation. First, there's no consistency in the line work. Look at those big open feathering lines and then those tight straight lines shading the belly. Look at those weirdly constructed, straight line construction of muscular ribbing. That this has passed for a genuine Kane is beyond ridiculous. There's not only an incredible lacking of consistency, but the lines themselves are amateurish, nothing like the confidence of a seasoned artist like Gil.

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    1. Sorry, Rick, I think it is indeed by Gil Kane. I did a search and everyone else, including ComicArtFans, Marvel Wikia, even Marvel.com says this cover is by Gil Kane.

      http://marvel.com/comics/issue/8436/daredevil_1963_84

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  2. That means nothing. Do a comparison to his other work. Here's what you and others don't get, the system does not always work. In this case a fraud has been perpetrated long enough that even as inane as it is has been accepted as a fact. It's a tracing or a copy but that is not Gil's line. Just show me one comparison where this correlates with another of his work. The real irony here is when Gil designed covers he rarely put this much detail, (on those occasions it was far better than this mess) and when he did it it was ready for HIM to ink, not others. Look at all the useless line work and the lack of confidence in that line. It's like the copyist tried to copy the inked version than purposely added texture and line as if the inker was too lazy to go to the trouble. I really hate to sound insulting but to believe this is the real deal is why I have so much trouble with fans. They THINK they know and they don't and that's the ultimate insult to the artist. Take this image to people who knew Gil, actual friends. I worked with Gil to create a retrospective of his career for the Art Show at San Diego so I do have some level of intimacy with his method seeing as I saw a lot of it at his condo when he lived off San Vincente in LA. I'm also an artist. I can see with complete confidence that I've never seen Gil's work look like this. It's amateurish looking and sloppy, the exact opposite of Gils' very practiced method.

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    1. After 6+ years, I finally believe that you are 100% correct! I should have investigated more based on your comments.

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  3. The pencil image is certainly Gil Kane, but I don't think that the inks are. Compare the penciled and inked hand under the logo. Kane constructed that hand in the pencils, but a lot of the structure is lost in the inks. Kane wouldn't have lost it. If Kane is attributed as the inker, then he had an assistant do a lot of it.

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  4. The pencil image is certainly Gil Kane, but I don't think that the inks are. Compare the penciled and inked hand under the logo. Kane constructed that hand in the pencils, but a lot of the structure is lost in the inks. Kane wouldn't have lost it. If Kane is attributed as the inker, then he had an assistant do a lot of it.

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  5. No, it isn't. I've talked to both his widow and his agent and they've let the owner at the time know they didn't appreciate it being purported as Gil's. I never referred to the inks. I cannot believe you've seen his other pencils and compared to this hack work. When his agent and widow BOTH say it's not his, I'm going to take their word for what my eyes already tell me. By all means keep perpetrated this fraud against a master. By all means, present a comparison of this "art" with his MANY other pencils that are easily available.

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    1. Thanks for being persistent. I finally get your point after all this time. I will update this post.

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  6. I agree with Rick Tucker. That said, I think Rick could have been more temperate in his replies.

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    1. Ah, I think his tone was okay, he was just making a point. I finally believe that he is correct.

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  7. By all means, let's compare other covers of his from the same time.

    Here is a side by side comparison of Kane's layout and the final inks of a Power Man cover.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zVMEoHqCdbo/UC7E6cm9mJI/AAAAAAAAHiQ/5hsqxAho3J4/s1600/power+man+luke+cage+hero+for+hire+47+original+cover+comic+art+gil+kane+sketch+rough+marvel+comics+bronze+age+.gif

    Here's Kane's layout of a Marvel Treasury cover featuring the Defenders. These books were printed tabloid size, and should have been far more detailed to make up for the lack of reduction of the original. Note how loose the pencils are.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-K8NxsZdVhx0/Ulqg96_FmMI/AAAAAAAAPuA/QAP8ce4zhrk/s1600/defenders+gil+kane+nighthawk+cover+art+orignal+comic+marvel+comics+hulk+dr.+strange+sub-mariner+treasury+edition+1978+bronze+age+.gif

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